Wassim lohfi

Wassim lohfi posted in General Aviation

6 years ago Public

Greetings, 

I would like yo have a specific answer of how to log flight hours according to Easa Part Fcl , 

It doesnt specify exactly if i was an instructor and flying with a PPL licensed student , as a safety pilot  NOT during any training course , are these hours counted for me? If yes how should i log them in which format and for the PPL holder  as well how should he log it ?  Is is considered PICUS for him / instruction for.me or PIC for me and PICUS for  him

Nick Wilcock
Nick Wilcock • 6 years ago

If your presence as an instructor is necessary, then in single pilot aeroplane you are PIC in my opinion and the other pilot should log his/her time as dual.

Wassim lohfi
Wassim lohfi • 6 years ago

i appreciate your help guys but there is no clear answer on the part fcl , abou these i have read them before , it only says an instructor logs pic when he is giving instruction , but if he is safety pilot is it recorded for him or easa does not aprove safety pilot position in a single pilot operation airplane ??

Bas Vrijhof
Bas Vrijhof • 6 years ago

The safety pilot (SP) is mentioned in the Aircrew regulation, mainly in Part-MED. So it is a recognised 'function', but not comparable to other 'pilot functions' as mentioned in Part-FCL.
The point is that the presence of an SP is only required because of a limitation in the medical (!) certificate. However, there is NO limitation in the PPL licence. Apart from the medical limitation, the PPL pilot is fully qualified and licensed. So, as a SP your pilot function only becomes relevant when you have to take control due to incapacitation of the PPL/PIC. From that point on you're acting as PIC and can log your flight time, but not before.

The SP is not defined in Part-FCL because acting as an SP does not give (nor requires) extra privileges (maybe some extra skills, like landing from the right seat, but that's a different matter).

So yes, you are allowed to act as a SP, because as a licence holder you're allowed to take control in case of an emergency. And no, you can't log time as long as the PIC stays healthy: in that case it's just like any other flight with another qualified pilot who is the PIC on a single-pilot aeroplane on a non-training flight.

Logging time as PICUS (for the PPL holder) is not an option. See the Definitions and FCL.050: a PICUS is a co-pilot (etc.).... Assuming you're flying a single-pilot aeroplane, so being a co-pilot is not possible.

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